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USA' bidrag til verden

3. juni 2012 16:30
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Selv om USA har bidraget positivt i Europa og i resten af verden, er det ligeså afgjort, at mange amerikanske politikere og videnskabsmænd og firmaer i tidens løb også har bidrage med "gaver" som eksempelvis "Agent Orange," hvis grufulde følgevirkninger stadig kan spores på mennesker, dyr og planter.

I samme forbindelse har jeg i øvrigt lært, at det er næsten umuligt at få amerikanere - selv ens familie og venner - til at indse, at alle amerikanske militrære overgreb ikke kan undskyldes - hverken på den ene eller den anden måde.

Selv er jeg kommet til den konklusion, at en del af forklaringen kan findes i den kendsgerning, at næsten ingen amerikaneren ved ret meget om, hvad der foregår i lande uden for USA. Og at dette næppe er en 'tilfældighed.'

Her er et eksempel på noget af det som vi - efter min mening - godt kunne have undværet

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

http://kortlink.dk/b494

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03.06-2012 | 18:31 af Steen Hansen
Hejsa - narh - de skal nu ikke have skyld for altsammen, for meget har de "arvet".

(ps. her skulle være et billede af et Nazi-symbol. Nærmere Hage-korset".

JIM JONES, THE CIA & THE LATIN CONNECTION
The story of charismatic sadist Jimmy Jones, and
the massacre in 1978, of over 900 men, women and
children of the People’s Temple in Guyana, remains
for many a chilling enigma. Billed by the media as a
mass suicide of religious cultists, this remains the generally held view.
However, evidence has continued to mount which strongly points to the
involvement of the Central Intelligence Agency in what numerous
observes and investigators now conclude was a “mind control” experiment
gone wrong.

Born in 1931 in Crete, Indiana, Jones developed an interest in the more
esoteric subjects such as Voodoo, faith healing, ESP and, more
importantly, techniques of mass conversion. The abilities he developed in
these areas would be critical in later years in Jamestown.
But he made other “connections as well that were to prove equally
significant. Early in his life, during his early teens he became a friend of
Dan Mitrione, then eleven years his elder and the Chief of Police of
Richmond, Indiana. Mitrione, a Navy veteran joined the Richmond Police
Department in 1945, and worked his way up the ranks. He would later
join the CIA under the State Department’s Agency for International Aid
(AID) “cover.” In 1960 he was posted to Brazil where he taught police
techniques of “hostile interrogation” – a euphemism for torture.
Mitrione’s posting preceded the Defence Department and CIA’s secret
plans for a military coup against Brazilian President, Joao Goulart,
ordered by President Lyndon Johnson in 1964. The coup was successful
and aroused little attention by the media at the time. Even so, the whole
of Latin America had been targeted by the US who wished to gain
complete control of what they saw as their “backyard.” Mitrione was later
kidnapped by Tupamarco guerrillas in Uruguay and assassinated. The
connection between Mitrione and Jones raises the question: was Mitrione
Jim Jones CIA handler? As we shall see, the answer in all probability is
yes.

Ever since WWII, covert US military and intelligence operations were
plentiful in Latin America. Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil and other South
American states were quick to offer sanctuary to thousands of former Nazi
war criminals on the run from justice at the Nuremberg war crimes trials.
Even as the US sought convictions and death sentences for some of the
more notable members of Hitler’s regime at Nuremberg, the US was
simultaneously helping other Nazi’s and members of the feared SS, to
freedom via the US sponsored Vatican “Ratlines.” Included were some of
the most abysmal killers the world has ever known. Top Nazi’s like Dr.
Mengele – who conducted inhuman and terrible experiments on
concentration camp victims – together with Gustav Wagner, Commandant
of the Sobibor death camp, and Franz Stangl, who commanded the
extermination camp at Treblinka, were amongst those helped to freedom
and comfort. Likewise, the notorious Klaus Barbie, who was also known
for his skill at “hostile interrogation,” which he developed in occupied
Europe during WWII, as a feared member of the Gestapo. More recently,
forensic evidence published by author Hugh Thomas in his book SS-1,
demonstrates that the body of Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler, wartime
chief of the SS was not that of Himmler at all, but a double. Himmler, it
now seems, escaped to freedom with the countless thousands of other
Nazi’s.
These Nazi connections will, as we’ll shortly see, dovetail directly to Jim
Jones and Jonestown. Not least of these, however, was the use of
advanced techniques of hypnosis which Jones used on his followers. It is
more than passing interest to note that that involuntary human
experiments using hypnosis and narco-hypnosis techniques featured in
some of the gruesome experiments conducted by Nazi doctors on
inmates at Dachau concentration camp. This involved lacing inmates’
drinks with the mind-altering narcotic, Mescaline.
Other “mind control” experiments using drugs – described as
“brainwashing with chemicals” by one informant - also took place at
Auschwitz. The Auschwitz experiments resulted from the Gestapo’s
realisation that extracting information from prisoners being interrogated
under torture was not as efficient as they hoped.
The Dachau experiments formed part of a lengthy report issued by the US
Naval Technical Mission who had been tasked with gathering all available
scientific data from Nazi Germany at war’s end. This report triggered the
US Navy’s interest in Mescaline as an interrogation technique and, in turn,
became an integral part of the US Navy’s 1947, OPERATION CHATTER,
aimed at developing methods for getting information from subjects against
their will without inflicting physical injury.
With any lingering thoughts of the holocaust pushed firmly in the
background, the US Army Chemical Corps and the newly created CIA
actively sought Nazi expertise in designing and building gas chambers.
Eight former Nazi scientists, including the notorious Otto Ambros – later

nicknamed the “Devil’s Chemist” - advised the US Army’s Chemical Corps
on technical considerations. The idea was to find ways of “surreptitiously
rendering a subject unconscious or to cause him to breathe some type of
gas that could make the subject more suggestible or pliable…” stated one
CIA memo regarding their interest in gas chambers. The simple fact that
Otto Ambros had been convicted at the Nuremberg trials of slavery and
mass murder, for which he was sentenced to eight years in prison, did not
prove a problem. Such was the quality of his “expertise” that unnamed
American officials commuted his sentence after just three years and with
the assistance of multimillionaire Peter Grace, of W R Grace, helped
Ambros in a bid to enter the United States.
Otto Ambros would later directly work as a consultant for Peter Grace,
who, coincidentally headed the American Chapter of the Knights of Malta
and has been a long-time associate of the CIA. The relationship between
top CIA officers and the shadowy Knights of Malta is cemented in the fact
that many Directors of Central Intelligence and other executive level
officers are also members of this knightly order.
In fact, membership of the Knights of Malta (known as “SMOM” an
abbreviation of its full title of The Sovereign Military and Hospitaler Order
of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes) and American intelligence pre-date
the CIA. William (Bill) Donovan, the head of the wartime Office of
Strategic Services (OSS) – the precursor to the CIA - was associated with
SMOM. As was James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s hard-core counter
intelligence expert until he was fired by President John Kennedy. Another
DCI who was a knight was Bill Casey who was chief of the CIA during the
Reagan Administration. Earlier, Bill Colby, who headed the spy agency
during the Vietnam War era was approached to become a member but
declined. Other senior CIA knights included William Buckley and John
McCone. On the US military side General Alexander Haig was appointed
a knight of SMOM. This almost unbroken but subterranean connection
between the two is reported to extend to the current DCI, George Tenet,
according to a former CIA source.
Perhaps the relationship has something to do with the fact that the
Knights of Malta are the said to be the Vatican’s own intelligence network.
And if one were to seek a Nazi connection to SMOM, just to place matters
in historical perspective, it would not be long in coming. Reinhard Gehlen,
the former Nazi intelligence supreme who went to work for the CIA
immediately after the war and later founded the present day German
intelligence agency the BND – the Bundesnachtrichtdienst - was awarded
SMOM’s Cross of Merit decoration.
Moreover, Franz von Papen, a Knight Magistral Grand Cross of SMOM,
was vital to Hitler’s assumption to power and was soon rewarded for his
able assistance by being appointed Ambassador to Austria – an
appointment not without considerable significance when it is recalled that
Austria was Hitler’s own birthplace. With such high profile Nazi’s being
honoured by, or elevated to membership of SMOM, both before and after
WWII, it is not difficult to conclude that SMOM’s sense of justice and
concern for the ills of the human condition – which it trumpets today as its
principal raison d’etre - falls woefully short of accepted norms.
By 1949, interest in hypnosis by the American military and intelligence
community had resulted in a study conducted for the US Air Force by the
Rand Corporation. In his “Research Memorandum,” Rand’s Irving L Janis
discussed such matters as “Inducing Hypnosis Against A person’s Will” as
well as “Introducing Post Hypnotic Amnesia” in the subjects to ensure
they would be unable to remember having being hypnotised in the first
place.
However, causing amnesia by hypnotic suggestion was by no means a
new or unique skill for US intelligence operatives. George Eastabrooks, a
military intelligence expert had developed these skills during WWII by
programming “hypnotic couriers” who, unknown to even themselves, were
hypnotised to carry sensitive messages. Using a technique he described
as “locking” Eastabrooks was able to embed secret messages in a courier
via hypnosis. The courier would then be sent to a given destination where
another officer would “retrieve” the message via hypnotic techniques. The
courier was programmed to be conducive to hypnosis by only
Eastabrooks and the nominated officer receiving the message. The use
of a code phrase was sufficient to place him in a hypnotic trance. Others
attempting to hypnotise the subject would hit a roadblock unless they also
knew the code phrase in question. In this manner, detailed and highly
sensitive information could be securely locked in the vault of the subject’s
subconscious to be retrieved only by those who knew the correct
combination to unlock it. Eastabrooks believed this technique was
virtually “foolproof.”
In an article published in the April 1971, issue of Science Digest,
Eastabrooks boasts of splitting the personality of what he describes as a
“vulnerable” US Marine Lieutenant during WWII. He named these
personalities “Jones A” and “Jones B.” Jones A was programmed to
become a communist and was given a dishonourable discharge by the
Marine Corps to unknowingly infiltrate communist cells to the extent he
became a card carrying party member. At the same time, Jones B, the
deeper personality became the silent controller who knew what was really
going on but had been programmed to remain silent but watchful and
able, under hypnosis, to report back the experiences of Jones A – the
“created” communist. This obviously was without the consent or
knowledge of Lt. “Jones.”
These and other early studies in hypnosis would eventually lead to the
CIA’s now notorious MKULTRA project that sought, amongst other things,
to create a programmable assassin compelled to kill on command and
who would be incapable of acting under their own volition.
The reason given for these questionable activities was firstly; to fight the
Nazi’s in WII and later, to combat the perceived communist threat that
resulted from the so-called Cold War. Yet there were deeper, more
enduring and far more cynical reasons that lay behind both these conflicts
(and later ones): money.
It is now no longer a secret that Hitler’s rise to power was aided in
considerable part by finance he received from Wall Street bankers.
Professor Antony C. Sutton, admirably details this in his book WALL
STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER, first published 1976. Sutton
exhaustively demonstrates that for the Wall Street bankers and their elitist
friends, designer conflicts and destabilisation constitutes a never-ending
cash cow that when milked, floods billions and trillions of dollars into
corporate coffers. But the principal ambition is and was to control
governments and capture markets for exploitation by the few.
Likewise, it is also no secret that the Nazi hierarchy harboured virulent
anti-Bolshevik sentiments that brought them close to Elites in England
and America and which ultimately found temporary satisfaction in Hitler’s
attack on the Soviet Union in 1941.6 What is less well known is the fact
that it was the same gaggle of Wall Street interests that helped finance
the Bolshevik revolution in the first place. We again turn to Professor
Sutton who explains why Wall Street financed the Russian Revolution in
this manner:
The gigantic Russian market was to be converted into a captive market and a technical
colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations
under their control.
Which just goes to show how much value is put in a “captive market” by
the dominant financial elites. Those who meticulously planned to extend
economic hegemony over the furthest reaches of the European continent
as far back as the turn of the last century would, of course, have not even
blinked at meddling in Latin America, long regarded as America’s own
backyard.
With the influx into South America of significant elements of SS
apparatus, courtesy of a plan secretly hammered out between SS
General Karl Wolff – head of the SS in Italy at the time – and Allen Dulles,
the number two man in the wartime OSS, thousands of hardened and
battle tested “shock troops” were made secretly available to ensure the
backyard stayed loyal to US interests. “Loyalty” of course, included
wholesale murder and assassination, political destabilisation leading to a
US sponsored coup d’etat and widely applying techniques of torture
learned at the hands of experts like Gestapo war criminal, Klaus Barbie.
These developments went hand in hand with other “democratic”
enterprises such as honing and developing the existing infrastructure of
the narcotics industry to the point where it has become such a dominant
part of Latin America today..."

Uddrag af "Masters of Persuasion" af David Guyat, og omhandler

Power, Politics, Money Laundering, Nazi’s, Mind Control,
Murder and Medjugore

“Our agency’s information on
Medjugorje indicates that it is a
“psychological terrorist” site.”

og vi lever alle på samme "site".
:o)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 18:49 af Steen Hansen
Bemærk Knights of SMOM (Malta), hvori vi kan finde bla. det ekstremt kendte symbol.
 
 
03.06-2012 | 18:50 af Steen Hansen
Bemærk videre den Katolske "himmel" og således bekræftes symbolet.
 
 
03.06-2012 | 18:53 af Steen Hansen
Bemærk historiens fakta om de "tunge drenge" i Nazismen's ledelse, der alle smuttede til hhv. Amerika´og de Latinske Lande.

Men selvfølgelig altsammen i demokratiets navn og udførelse.
;o)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 18:36 af Peter Forchhammer
A ja Ole - og Agent Orange er helt sikket også noget forfærdeligt skidt

Lige så skidt som:

Atombombem, som næppe var blevet opfundet hvis det ikke var for DANSKEREN Niels Bohr
Dynamitten, som vi kan takke SVENSKEREN Nobel for
Diverse festlige krigsgasser som TYSKERNE har budt ind med
Krudtet som KINESERNE fandt på

for nu bare at nævne noget...

jeg synes din ret ensidige hetz mod amerikanerne er ved at antage en mere end skinger tone...

for at sige det midlt...
 
 
03.06-2012 | 18:57 af Steen Hansen
@Peter
Dette er IKKE et oplæg - et hadsk eller vrangvilligt oplæg - omkring USA.
Men et tilskyndelse til alle - også Danske politikere - om evnen, viljen og midlerne til at foretage "mind-control" - det selv om den pgl. ikke er vidende om samme.
Læs min kommentar og tag en dyb indånding.

Ingen - jeg gentager - INGEN - på dette site er IMOD USA eller ønsker USA noget ondt, grusomt eller lign.
Tag dig dog sammen mand og prøv at dygtiggøre dig.
:o)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:46 af Steen Hansen
Pludselig kommer det hele tættere og tættere på.'
Kan I huske Breivik - ham Nordmanden. Han påstod sig at have været i kontakt med ...... og samtidig kom med en forklaring omkring "smugling af Diamanter".
Jeps - Norge har sandelig et problem.
:o)
 
 
04.06-2012 | 08:22 af Peter Forchhammer
Steen - var der ikke noget med at du fremførte at Hitler trykkede pengesedler som aldrig fø - og d ermed var skyld i hyperinfaltionen - sådan ca 5 år før han kom til magten... sådan apropos dygtiggørelse og at tage sig sammen?? du mener ikke for alvor at jeg skal tage alvorligt når du skriver at ingen på dette site er imod USA?? det er vist dagens største overdrivelse...
 
 
04.06-2012 | 08:55 af Steen Hansen
JOJO - Hitler stod med opsmøgede ærmer og med en lille hat på, hvor han drejede på svinghjulet for pressen, der spyttede meget store Reichs-mark ud i en lille spand, der stod for enden, hvor en jøde stod og ventede på at spanden blev fyldt, hvorefter han tog spanden og bar den ud til en bil, alt mens en anden jøde stillede sig op bag pressen, med sin egen lille spand og ventede på papiret's fylde, så livet kunne gå videre. Men så blev Hitler konfirmeret - der ved pressen - mens han trykkede Reichsmark - og var nødsaget til at smøge sine ærmer ned og tørre sveden af panden, hvorfor han blev sur, for det var ikke nødvendigt i Østrig, hvor de høje bjerge var så smuk i den nedgående Sol, der var identisk med en Japansk tro, hvilken Hitler havde på sin computer, der lige var blevet opfundet af IBM og ville derfor straffe Jøderne for ikke at kunne være hurtig nok med spanden og det ødelagde festen og så blev der ikke så mange gaver, hvilke Hitler havde forventet, da ham Japaneren kendte en Jøde, der havde en fætter i Amerika, der kørte i en Ford - men kun om søndagen, da hestene også skulle luftes og da Hitler fik at vide, at Heste også kunne spises synes han Europa skulle omdannes til éen stor heste-farm, hvor alle Ariske racer skulle have sin egen hest og dyrepasserne skulle have heste-bøffer, hvilke jo satte gang i produktionen, der gjorde at de pengesedler, der kom ud af trykkepressen ikke var så meget værd, fordi hestene blev dræbt i krigen og ingen ville spise rådden kød undtaget dem, der var placeret på specielle steder, hvor de var placeret, fordi de var uønsket og havde gjort noget forkert og specielt at gøre forkert, var Hitler's mareridt, da han godt kunne huske, at han i sine læderbukser fik smæk af naboen's dreng og det havde Hitler aldrig glemt - for han var Jøde.
Se dette er den sandfærdige historie om krigen og om hitlers svære arbejde ved trykkepressen for de nødvendige papirer, der symbolsk skulle dække værdien for et stykke brød og for at købe våben, så hele Heste-farmen, alle jøderne og de andre og de gamle uvenner og så dem, Hitler ikke kunnne lide kunne blive tvunget til at se på, at Hitler selv havde det symbol, hvorfra marken skulle springe ud og Hestene løbe frit.

@Peter - du må fan´me tage dig sammen og prøve at fylde din etikette som "direktør og analyse". Måske din lille spand.
Har har har har man hørt mage - skreg den Satans Krage.
 
 
04.06-2012 | 09:35 af Peter Forchhammer
Steen det er den mest utrolige omgang vrøvl du til dato har præsteret... og det siger ikke så lidt.... men man kan jo altid vrøvle sig ud af når man har skrevet noget vås... og dit vås om hyperinflationen under Hitler var... noget vås - både med og uden krager...så min etiket har det stadig rigtigt fint...
 
 
04.06-2012 | 09:40 af Steen Hansen
Du beviser igen min tidligere påstand.
:o)
 
 
04.06-2012 | 11:16 af Peter Forchhammer
netop ikke, men det kan jeg jo skrive til bevidstløshed uden nogen effekt - sådan er det jo når man debaterer med fundamentalister
 
 
04.06-2012 | 11:42 af Steen Hansen
Jamen bette mand - nu udråber du mig til "fundamentalist".

For hvad?
 
 
04.06-2012 | 11:43 af Steen Hansen
Er du sikker på, du ikke bare skal have skiftet ble?
 
 
04.06-2012 | 08:22 af Peter Forchhammer
Steen - var der ikke noget med at du fremførte at Hitler trykkede pengesedler som aldrig fø - og d ermed var skyld i hyperinfaltionen - sådan ca 5 år før han kom til magten... sådan apropos dygtiggørelse og at tage sig sammen?? du mener ikke for alvor at jeg skal tage alvorligt når du skriver at ingen på dette site er imod USA?? det er vist dagens største overdrivelse...
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:17 af Ole Halvorsen
"Ingen - jeg gentager - INGEN - på dette site er IMOD USA eller ønsker USA noget ondt, grusomt eller lign.Tag dig dog sammen mand og prøv at dygtiggøre dig."
:o)
Ja, tak, Steen, så enkelt og sandt kan det udtrykke.
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:41 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Fra side 84 og fremefter i følgende udmærkede bog
kan man læse om USA's fordækte krige og
imperialistiske under-cover-operationer:
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:41 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
 
 
03.06-2012 | 20:34 af Steen Hansen
hehe - Per og jeg har haft mange debatter og vi er begge blevet klogere. Jeg kan konstatere ændringer hist og pist - men det hedder altså stadig "Knep dig selv" og ikke "Kneb dig selv".
Godt ord igen - kære ven - og jeg kan kun appludere og samstemmende erklære min respekt for en sådan bog, der kommer "hele vejen rundt".
Tak.
 
 
03.06-2012 | 20:52 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Tak, Steen. Det er en anerkendelse, jeg i høj grad værdsætter! ;-)

Apropos "kneb dig selv", så kom jeg engang i en debat i Journalistens Debatforum til at skrive: "cut the crab" (klip/barber krabben)!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
 
 
03.06-2012 | 21:02 af Steen Hansen
hehe - jeg har præsteret at misforstå et ord i den grad, at jeg rødmende måtte tvinge et smil frem, i det spinkle håb, at de tilstedeværende ikke kunne konstatere min skam. Men de grinede alle højlydt - og erklærede næsten samstemmende "Velkommen i klubben".
:o)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 21:24 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Jamen, så vil jeg nu grunde dybt og inderligt over, hvad det kan være for et ord, indtil tiøren falder eller bliver hængende i luften! :-)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:50 af Ole Halvorsen
Mange tak for at minde om dette link, Kurt Heinrich!
 
 
03.06-2012 | 20:17 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Selv tak, Ole! ;-)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 19:48 af winnie eldrup
Spændende læsning, Kurt om United SNAKES of America
 
03.06-2012 | 20:19 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Glæder mig, hvis jeg har kunnet levere noget gedigen dokumentation! ;-)
 
 
03.06-2012 | 20:37 af Kurt Heinrich Frandsen
Kilden er hovedsageligt en dokumentar, som har været vist i TV!
 
 
04.06-2012 | 11:53 af winnie eldrup
Vist på TV Kurt, - DR????? - det må have været laaangt tid siden- og sikkert efter kl. 12 midnat.. ..
 
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